Friday, August 15, 2008

Storing Rain IV

Every time a roof line is erected around here, part of the thought process going into and coming out of building that roof line is where the water "caught" by it will go, because that water falling from the sky and "intercepted" by a roof line is a water provision from God, for which we are thankful. After two droughts in three years here, catching and storing as much as possible has seemed to become imperative.

Along with the barn the Lord graciously allowed us came a pretty big roof line, which translates into a pretty big water "catch" when it rains. And so, we began to plan a catch-water system for the barn, which wasn't quite simple.

You see, the barn's roof line theoretically (square feet X .62 per inch of rain) would fill the 2500 gallon black container from our first catch-water roof line in just about one inch of rain, and we are supposed to get around 26 inches per year average. Well, this would mean lining up a whole bunch of black tanks, or finding other means.

We looked at larger tanks, 10,000 gallons or more, and the cost of delivery of them goes way up because they are considered wide loads in transport. And so, I decided we would look into building a water cistern. With it, I was hoping to 1) hold nearly 20,000 gallons; 2) that it would be above ground so that the water would flow out by gravity and not need any electricity for pumping; and 3) that it would last a long time. And so, when we hired the crew to do the root cellar, we hired them to do the cistern as well.

The concrete contractor decided to implement steel reinforced concrete for the walls a foot in width that would connect to a previously poured slab. I also thought it might be a good idea to put a wall in the middle to split the cistern into two sections so that if we ever needed to empty the cistern (for cleaning or otherwise), the worst we would have to do would be to drain only one side. I included in the plans at the bottom of the structure one exit spout in the first section and two in the second section, plus the overflow spout at the top of the second section. Instead of a pipe in between the two sections, the contractor decided to just lower the middle partition an inch and a half to allow for flow from the first section to the second section that way.

And here is the process. They put sand and sand bags below the bottom slab to help against shifting:




And they poured:




And worked the concrete:





Here is the finished slab:




After the slab was poured, they began to set up the wall forms:





Remembering their root cellar troubles, they built cross-hatch bracing to support the internal form structure:




Here are the outside walls before the "kicker" braces are in place:




And here is how they braced the internal and external walls to each other:




In my design for being able to hold a certain amount of water, I decided to increase the height of the walls so as to accommodate the water storage requirements with using as little of a square area footprint on the ground as possible. Sadly, this ended up necessitating the extra expense of a concrete pump truck in the pouring of the walls. But, here it is in action:





And here is a finished wall:




With the concrete poured, some sort of covering was needed to keep bugs out and hide the caught water from the sun (which, when mixed with minerals from dirt and the like, forms algae). Instead of just putting a flat covering on it (like a pool cover), I decided to put a roof line on it to be able to catch that water and funnel it into the cistern as well. Here are a couple of pictures of it:





And now with one side of the cistern ready, it was time to install the piping directing the water from the roof into the cistern. Here is a general picture of that:




As before mentioned with our shed roof catch-water system, it is often good to install a roof washer, which filters the first several gallons of water coming off of the roof, which are likely to be dirty or have other organic material in them, so as little of that ends up in the water container:




I used metal straps screwed into the purlins or girts (the internal horizontal and vertical steel beams) of the barn to support the piping, thusly attaching it to something more sound than just the barn siding:




Here is a final filter which catches any larger items the roof washer didn't get. For this I use aluminum window screening:




And here once again are the Lord's provisions:




Once the cistern was poured, the contractor came and coated the inside of the cistern's walls and floor with a potable concrete sealer. He used BASF's Thoroseal. He missed a few spots, and I have since had to go in a re-coat the walls in places with more of the Thoroseal; but it appears that the sealer works well, and the leaks are slowly disappearing, with none of which we are aware at this time.

I had held off piping in the other side of the barn because of these leaks, but in the past couple of days I've been able to completely finish the second side of the cistern's covering and roof and was able to install the piping for the second side of the barn:





Once again, we are very grateful to God for allowing us this cistern and His water provisions, both spiritual and temporal. May we not be leaky containers, but by His mercies be able to hold His graces and blessings as new containers (Matt 9:17; John Gill's commentary on this verse).

-- David

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

Thank you both for taking the time to show us your catch water system! My husband and I are planning to install a system on a MUCH smaller scale in our back yard, while we wait to purchase our land, Lord willing :-) When I see the rainwater pouring out of our downspout, I think what a waste! Yes, rain is a blessed gift from the Lord, and you and Susan are proving to be faithful stewards of His provision. Thank you for your blog and the wonderful encouragement it provides!

Mountain Morning said...

I love the details you put into your posts...it is really neat to see the whole process that went into your homestead. Thank you for sharing!

Brandi

Anonymous said...

I too, Thank You for sharing in such great details and photos!

I'm wondering, do you have to worry about the pipes freezing, or are they all at such an angle that no water is left to freeze and break the pipe?

Thank You for sharing! Very informative.

Blessings,
Kris in WA

David and Susan Sifford said...

Hi Kris,

There shouldn't be much water left in the pipes as indeed they should be at angles enough to clear them, at least for the most part; and the downspout we'll keep empty manually.

I'm not sure, but isn't the pipe freezing/cracking problem when a pipe is completely full, like with pressured pipes in an on-grid house? I could be wrong. If that is the case, then there really shouldn't be a problem in that regard. I hope that's the case anyway. :)

Thanks,

-- David

Anonymous said...

Hi David,

Thank you for your time in answering my question.


What are your thoughts on the following:

I wondered if in the winter, a person was collecting snow off a roof, while it was melting, would this system work?

We have had our down spouts on our house freeze solid in the winter. The sun would come out during the day and begin to warm enough to start the melting of the snow down the gutters/drain pipe, and then the temps would change quickly and freeze.

Maybe your winters are not as harsh as northern ones. I'm not that familiar with TX winters. So, maybe this type of system wouldn't work for year round collection in the north.

I have another question regarding the Roof Washer. Are the screens a particular type on your pipes? Does the rain water just filter through the screens?

Do you add any chlorine to your water cistern?

How often do you think you would have to clean the cistern?

Thank you again for your time and sharing of information.

Kris in WA

David and Susan Sifford said...

Hi Kris,

I'm not sure how much snow catching would work because I would think the snow would just clog up the gutters. While it was melting it would a bit, but I would think you'd be limited in flow because of any still unmelted snow. I would think that generally you just wouldn't catch a lot from snow.

I'm trying to think about our black tank system to a couple of winters ago where we had some extended freezes. I believe there was a time the hose on the spigot had water in it which froze. I'm not sure what we did. Perhaps warm water on the spigot and hose to free it up? Or we were able to wait that one out, and then remembered to fill all of our 6-gallon containers before long freezes? In general though, I assume our winters here aren't too harsh.

As for the screens, are you referring to the final screens just before the water goes into the cistern? If so, I just use aluminum (because it's more durable) window screening. And so, the downspout and those screens are basically all of the pre-filtering we do.

At this time we are not adding and hopefully will not have to add anything to the water in the cistern itself. With the roof on it, it seems to be holding as far as algae and the like. I did have to spray the inside non-treated wood walls down with bleach water because of mold, and I'll probably paint it inside with mold-resistant paint. Also, for our camper/drinking water, we do put a 1/2 teaspoon of bleach in each 6-gallon portable container when we fill them from our tank or cistern.

As for how often cleaning will be needed, I really have no idea. I do know having the down spout and screens is increasing that time, based on what comes out of them when we clean them. :)

Not sure any of that helps. Hope it does some though.

Thanks,

-- David

David and Susan Sifford said...

Looks like I had to spray the untreated wood in the cistern with pure bleach. Hopefully that will work. And painting it on the inside with the mold-resistant paint has become a priority.

-- David

Anonymous said...

Thank You David for time, and explaining how and what you do with your water collection system. It has been most helpful. :0)

We are still in the planning stages, and trying to figure out what will work to collect water in a low rain fall area year round.

Blessings, Kris in WA